It seems like tile is a pain, dealing with grout is a pain, and everyone that redoes their bathroom has water damage behind the tile, so why do we keep using it? There has to be something between tile and crappy plastic tub surrounds and vinyl for flooring.

This was someone's comment from another post, just wondering what you thought of it.

"Tile is the biggest scam of the home improvement illuminati. "Oh it's so easy, you can do it yourself, you just sponge the grout in between the tiles, these little plastic spacers take all the work out of it". Anyone who has ever tiled knows this is all bullshit created to draw you into the Lowes vortex.

You know why tiling looks so easy on TV? It's because half the time they're doing it on a mock-up wall. They aren't dealing with corners, wall fixtures, uneven surfaces, unsquare walls, or goofy dimensions that require you to cut most of your tiles into goofy shapes. Plus the TV crews have an army of guildsmen hiding behind the scenes to make sure that the materials are just perfect. I've never seen thinset that was capable of holding a tile to a wall. I've never seen grout that wasn't more interested in making a mess out of my sponge. What I have seen is plastic spacers that refuse to release from between the tiles once the glue is dry, tiles that come out of the box with inconsistent dimensions, shower enclosures for which no combination of clever cuts can yield a nicely laid out border pattern, and floor tiles that incessantly rock yet can't be pried loose to attempt a re-glue.

TLDR fuck tile"

Submitted December 28, 2014 at 10:54PM by Loki2121 http://www.reddit.com/r/DIY/comments/2qmnkq/it_seems_like_tile_is_a_pain_dealing_with_grout/